Edurne: So how come we're stuck up here? I bet some delinquent poked a big stick in the wheel and jammed it.

Burama: It's a good job I'm up here so I can't get the blame! I read a newspaper yesterday that said that crimes by young people have gone up in Spain. The person who wrote it said, based on statistics he's seen, that delinquency has grown at the same time as the number of immigrants has grown. Apparently, now the proportion of immigrants in prisons is bigger than it was only a few years ago.

Ivan: Well, if there are more immigrants that's not surprising is it? It doesn't mean we're all criminals.

Edurne: About immigration, the danger could be - after reading a newspaper, listening to the radio or watching TV - that people straight away link it with more crime. They say that's what happened in France.

Ivan: You know, there are many things I like, I love, about Spain, like the general way of life. But, like in every country, in every region, in every family come to think of it, there are good and bad people. It's not the country people come from, or their culture, ethnic group, or their class that determines how good or bad somebody can be.

Edurne: Anyway, thinking about what you said before, Ivan, I think that even if there are more immigrants or ethnic minorities in general in prisons..... maybe we should look at the kinds of places in Spain these people grew up. Not many people would be delinquents if they had real alternatives.

Burama: As you both and the rest of the gang knows, I came to Spain with my family when I was 5 years old, so although legally I'm not Spanish, I feel now more Spanish than Gambian. But I'm black.

Edurne: So what?

Burama: So whaaat??

Ivan: You ask something and you get another question back as an answer. Interesting... It reminds me that...

Edurne: .... that people tend to say that Galicians answer with another question. If you ask them something, in turn they ask you why did you ask.

Burama: Yes, that's right. If you ask them why are you going here or there, they say

"why are you asking me?",
"why do you want to know?",
"and where are you going?"

Edurne: Wow... Long talk. Do you want to become a politician? (Only joking! Only joking!) Hang on, I'll answer myself... No, obviously you don't want to be a politician because you said things that make sense and aren't full of double meanings. Here we go again, another topic, another stereotype, I know. We have so many!

Burama: Yeah well, joking aside, what I wanted to say is, because of the colour of my skin some people are afraid of me, as if I was a delinquent or something..... Actually, the police stopped my dad once. He had all his papers in order, but they made him feel like a criminal. It was not a nice experience. Just imagine being in his shoes. And before you say anything Edurne, yes I know that not all police act this way.

Ivan: I know that for immigrants from the Ukraine things are not easy either. Not easy in their own new country and not easy in Spain. I've heard the Mafia brought some Ukrainians into Spain just to be thieves, they kind of tricked them and now they can't get away....

Edurne: Yeah, but not all Ukrainians are thieves. Not all Basques are terrorists either!

Burama: We should have some of these adults who reckon they know more than us stuck up here on this wheel with us - we'd teach them a thing or two!

Ivan: When I got up this morning I would never have thought we'd be up here with the birds talking about this stuff. Do you think they'll drop food parcels by helicopter? I need a burger.

Edurne: Hey, maybe we'll be in the papers!

Burama: Unless we're up here all night, or the wheel falls over! I wouldn't like to be in the news for that.